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Franklin Steele
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 06.18.2014

Jul 7 @ 2:40 PM ET
Franklin Steele: San Jose Sharks Can Learn From Tyler Seguin Catastrophe What can the San Jose Sharks possibly hope to learn from the Boston Bruins? A lot, actually.
hiway39
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 03.01.2010

Jul 7 @ 2:44 PM ET
i still can't see SJS dealing a center of his size and abilities, particularly since you're not getting a similar player in return in trade. with pacific division getting tougher and tougher up the middle (hello dallas), SJS can't afford to downgrade in a key position.

strip the captaincy, give couture the 1C minutes, and send marleau off instead. easier to find help on the wing closer to value than center.
BlazinMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 05.08.2013

Jul 7 @ 3:03 PM ET
i still can't see SJS dealing a center of his size and abilities, particularly since you're not getting a similar player in return in trade. with pacific division getting tougher and tougher up the middle (hello dallas), SJS can't afford to downgrade in a key position.

strip the captaincy, give couture the 1C minutes, and send marleau off instead. easier to find help on the wing closer to value than center.

- hiway39


Dallas is in the central division
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Jul 7 @ 3:05 PM ET
Laich, Brouwer, pick for Big Joe.

Pick depends if you want to retain some salary.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 7 @ 3:08 PM ET
Dallas is in the central division
- BlazinMike

Boom. Roasted.
Rockhead_37
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bolton, ON
Joined: 09.11.2010

Jul 7 @ 3:08 PM ET
nice video....
it's time to move on Seguin... lol

were were right on Raycroft - True

we were right on Phil - buzzz wrong.

and now wrong on Seguin, too bad they didnt ship him back to TO.
Team_Teal
San Jose Sharks
Location: Benicia, CA
Joined: 04.15.2011

Jul 7 @ 3:11 PM ET
Agreed on Jumbo & thanks for the great (& regular) write ups, Franklin...

Keep up the good work!

BlazinMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 05.08.2013

Jul 7 @ 3:15 PM ET
Boom. Roasted.
- eichiefs9


eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 7 @ 3:20 PM ET

- BlazinMike

"Stanley your heart sucks and you crush your wife during sex"
Jordy8
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: windsor, ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jul 7 @ 3:22 PM ET
Jeff carter is their second line center. Sharks have pavelski n wingels on the third line. Thornton n marleau just don't have the kahunas to get it done in the playoffs like carter n kopi
tootooisapunk
Dallas Stars
Location: Bedford, TX
Joined: 04.23.2007

Jul 7 @ 3:23 PM ET
Sure the series loss to LA sucks, but I'm not sure you blame that on Thorton. I'm far from a Joe fan, but that's more due to the Stars Sharks rivalry. After years of some pretty good hockey and years of playoff disappointments you have to do something but I don't think you blow it up.

I think at this point Joe is better suited as a second line guy, especially in the playoffs, take a little pressure off him. I would have loved to see him on the Stars, not 100% on Spezza.
Ryman
Season Ticket Holder
San Jose Sharks
Location: San Jose, CA
Joined: 07.17.2007

Jul 7 @ 3:45 PM ET
Go watch the last 3 games the Sharks played against the kings and you will see reasons why he should get the boot. After going down by one goal he was defeated. It showed in his face and the fact he was not watching play while on the bench. He just stared across the ice with this look of defeat on his face. He did it in all 3 games. A WINNNER and the type of player we need as a captain will get fired up and lead, not sit there and wallow in defeat before the game is over.
johnscave
Boston Bruins
Joined: 01.28.2011

Jul 7 @ 3:45 PM ET
love the look on Peter's face when Benning said trade Seguin, dont think thats what he wanted to hear....biggest blunder of his GM career , Phil a close second. Im a Bruins fan hated Joe leaving, hating Phil leaving and couldnt believe Tyler gone. Peter said during the regular season that our record would speak for itself....it sure did ...second round elimination to the Habs WTF.

People and management seem to forget in Boston that Julien dropped Seguin down to the third line because the dinosaur named Jagr had to get top six minutes. its hard to produce when you have been relugated to the checking line

Thornton is still producing and the Sharks will be fleeced in a trade of jumbo Joe so keep him ....period .

Karma would be Seguin and the Stars knock off the Canucks this year in Bennings debut in Vancouver...Karma is so Sweet
sjsharks92
San Jose Sharks
Location: San Jose, CA
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jul 7 @ 3:52 PM ET
Really nice article here, Franklin. A great read.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 7 @ 3:55 PM ET
love the look on Peter's face when Benning said trade Seguin, dont think thats what he wanted to hear....biggest blunder of his GM career , Phil a close second. Im a Bruins fan hated Joe leaving, hating Phil leaving and couldnt believe Tyler gone. Peter said during the regular season that our record would speak for itself....it sure did ...second round elimination to the Habs WTF.

People and management seem to forget in Boston that Julien dropped Seguin down to the third line because the dinosaur named Jagr had to get top six minutes. its hard to produce when you have been relugated to the checking line

Thornton is still producing and the Sharks will be fleeced in a trade of jumbo Joe so keep him ....period .

Karma would be Seguin and the Stars knock off the Canucks this year in Bennings debut in Vancouver...Karma is so Sweet

- johnscave

I really dislike you already, and we just met???
johnscave
Boston Bruins
Joined: 01.28.2011

Jul 7 @ 4:05 PM ET
I really dislike you already, and we just met???
- LeftCoaster



nothing personal lol
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 7 @ 4:12 PM ET
nothing personal lol
- johnscave

we're all good!!
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 7 @ 4:14 PM ET
Franklin Steele: San Jose Sharks Can Learn From Tyler Seguin Catastrophe
What can the San Jose Sharks possibly hope to learn from the Boston Bruins? A lot, actually.

- Franklin Steele

You are comparing apples to dumptrucks.

Seguin has...ahem...issues.

Ones that rarely go away.
claimdenied
San Jose Sharks
Location: Sacramento, CA
Joined: 11.30.2010

Jul 7 @ 4:23 PM ET
You are comparing apples to dumptrucks.

Seguin has...ahem...issues.

Ones that rarely go away.

- Atomic Wedgie


Does anyone really know, for certain, what his issues are? Sounds like he's just a kid doing all the stuff that we all did in college, except he's got more cash to make it crazier. He'll probably grow out of being a party boy.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 7 @ 4:24 PM ET
Does anyone really know, for certain, what his issues are? Sounds like he's just a kid doing all the stuff that we all did in college, except he's got more cash to make it crazier. He'll probably grow out of being a party boy.
- claimdenied

Yes. Don't look in his trunk...
Bren4Wings
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 08.17.2006

Jul 7 @ 4:43 PM ET
Does anyone really know, for certain, what his issues are? Sounds like he's just a kid doing all the stuff that we all did in college, except he's got more cash to make it crazier. He'll probably grow out of being a party boy.
- claimdenied


Wasn't that the same knock against Richards and Carter in Philly? I could be wrong...but I recall hearing something. We've heard stories about Kane. Now Giroux.

Change of scenery is what some players need.
Anyone else remember Niskanen being a throw in on the Neal trade because he had worn out his welcome per se in Dallas? Now....
johnscave
Boston Bruins
Joined: 01.28.2011

Jul 7 @ 4:46 PM ET
Does anyone really know, for certain, what his issues are? Sounds like he's just a kid doing all the stuff that we all did in college, except he's got more cash to make it crazier. He'll probably grow out of being a party boy.
- claimdenied



http://stars.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=714064

apparantly it was such a issue this year in Dallas as he was nomininated for the King Clancy award for on ice and off ice leadership and community involvement .and he finished 6th in Hart trophy voting. yes we gave up on him to F#%king soon and will regret it for many years

I would have traded Lucic before the cement in his shoes drys
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 7 @ 4:53 PM ET
Does anyone really know, for certain, what his issues are? Sounds like he's just a kid doing all the stuff that we all did in college, except he's got more cash to make it crazier. He'll probably grow out of being a party boy.
- claimdenied

Patrick Kane does cocaine during the offseasons. I've seen it with my own eyes. Yet the dude has a Conn Smythe and 2 Stanley Cup rings. Who gives a fack what they do off the ice as long as they perform well on the ice.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 7 @ 4:56 PM ET
Patrick Kane does cocaine during the offseasons. I've seen it with my own eyes. Yet the dude has a Conn Smythe and 2 Stanley Cup rings. Who gives a fack what they do off the ice as long as they perform well on the ice.
- rangerdanger94

rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 7 @ 5:00 PM ET

- eichiefs9

Kaner loves dat sugar booger
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